Informer
Registered: 03/07/07
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jumpin
Registered: 03/09/07
Posts: 285
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It's hard to get a clear perspective from some washed up drivers and a retired crew chief. Jimmy Spencer hasn'y done anything great since he was in a Mod; Kyle Petty was never much of a driver; who cares what McReynolds thinks anyway.
However, yes all racing is in trouble; just not Cup racing. The main reason is money related. The sport has outpriced itself. Families cannot afford the tickets and not many people do not get vacations anymore to spend Thursday-Sunday at a NASCAR race. Vacation benefits have been cut in many companies. NASCAR grew in the late 1990's through about 2003. Then it declined. Whoever was doing the business forecasting for NASCAR missed the mark. They built too many tracks too fast and the demand for tickets has declined. NASCAR also has an image problem. They went from good old boys, to slick boys; and now they are trying to appeal to urban minorities. If NASCAR doesn't have an identity itself than fans will not identify with it. Plus nobody cares what make car wins on the weekend anymore. Everybody is driving 4 cylinder cars. Speed is not in fashion. NASCAR is losing advertisers because it is not in vogue anymore. NASCAR simply does not have the lasting power of other sports such as baseball and football.
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newbrunswickracer
Registered: 07/10/08
Posts: 10
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i went to the charlotte race for the first time a couple weeks back and after 10 laps of watching the race,the novelty of the speed has worn off.the cars after 2 laps were spread apart and it was like watching cars go down a interstate.exciting as watching paint dry LOL.,as a result we went back to our hotel and got directions to south boston virginia on the laptop and went and watched some good short track racing,i guess my point is the tracks are so big that their is no racing to keep you amused. |
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Weev
Registered: 05/23/07
Posts: 211
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It isn't even the size of the tracks that is the problem. It is NASCAR is trying too hard to create good racing.
Take Talladega for example, A year ago you had the 01/20 incident. NASCAR Response was to paint 2 yellow lines on the bottom of the track. This led to the 09/99 deal where a fan got hurt, so you would think the logical step would be to revisit the whole yellow rule and change it, but instead they responded by banning bumping.
They are trying to cover to many bases. They need to go back to the way it used to be, all NASCAR needs to be concered with is that the cars are safe, and within the rules. Let the drivers take care of the show on the track, yes some races will be boring, that is the way it always has been, but overall if you just unleash the drivers you will have a better show.
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newbrunswickracer
Registered: 07/10/08
Posts: 10
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if they took the restrictor plates off those cars and they got airborn,where would that car end up somewhere in the stands.if they did take the restrictions off,the power house teams would be running away with the race and there would be very little side by side racing.big accidents are why most people go to those races and the beer.i just hope nobody is killed again at the track.i don"t mind accidents but do not like to see anyone hurt. |
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Weev
Registered: 05/23/07
Posts: 211
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They need to aerodynamically slow the cars and not do it with the plate. They were on the right path when Dale was killed, but they had a knee jerk reaction to that stopped looking into the aerodynamic slowing of the cars. |
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GM
Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 367
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Yes, they need to put the performance of the car back into the drivers hands.
Yes, they need to let the drivers race (bump draft, get rid of the yellow line rule, etc)
For this to happen they need to remove the plates (and drivers need to learn to respect each other). But they need to figure out some way to slow down the cars. Trying to do it aerodynamically is only going to get you part of the way there. Remember several years ago when they had the roof rail and the wicker bill on the spoiler? They tried this and it slowed cars down when they ran by themselves, but once they got in the draft they were able to run just as fast as they were before they had all of the aerodynamic stuff on the car. But they were at least able to use a restrictor plate with larger openings.
They've got to go to a smaller engine with less HP before they can get rid of the restrictor plates. Getting rid of the plates will make the racing good and until this happens, all you're going to have is the follow the leader, 38 car pack that we had this weekend with drivers almost wrecking each other every lap.
Maybe they need to drop the 12:1 compression at Daytona & Dega and go to a 9:1 engine. Make it smaller too. maybe only a 289 vs the 351 (or whatever it is). Drop the carb from what they have to what the CWS runs on their open engines. (450cfm? or is it only a 290?) Drop the HP down to ~450-500HP then they'd be able to run wide open rather than restricting a ~900HP engine down to ~450-500 with a plate.
Just my 2 cents.
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FD
Registered: 03/07/07
Posts: 47
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Isnt is the tires that need to be changed to slow them down? Whats on a street stock, a hockey puck? Take away those sticky goodyears, bolt on something that makes them lift going into the corner? I cant even watch this stuff on TV anymore. I have better places to nap then in front of the tv, and now that the Patriots are on, I can listen to it on the radio out in the garage. |
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jumpin
Registered: 03/09/07
Posts: 285
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Forget about stock cars;get rid of the glam and make the Mods the main class. That is real racing. |
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Rumulous
Registered: 02/11/08
Posts: 176
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FD is the only one on the right path here. The whole problem with the plate tracks is that nobody has to lift. When everyone can maintain wide open throttle, they will all stay bunched in the draft unless they are in really inferior equipment like Carl Long or Norm Benning might bring to the fight. You aren't going to accomplish this by slowing them down with a smaller plate, smaller engine, lower compression, etc. Plain and simple, if they don't have to lift and make handling a much bigger part of the equation, this mayhem will continue. And if you recall, the old V6 engine they used to run in the Busch Series ran over 190 mph in the draft. So you have 2 choices. Speed them up and you will make handling matter forcing them to lifyt, and as a result, there will still be a draft, but more like the old days when only a fews cars could hang together. Don't tell me they will get airborne, they do anyway now almost every plate race. Or, find a way to reduce grip. Point blank. NASCAR likes the current plate joke. |
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